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Labour is in an anti-London “Tory trap”: Sadiq Khan vs Andy Burnham

Anoosh Chakelian hosts a mayoral mash-up at the Labour Party conference.

This is a special episode recorded live at the New Statesman’s fringe event at this year’s Labour Party conference in Liverpool. Anoosh Chakelian sits down with Andy Burnham and Sadiq Khan to discuss what levelling up should look like under Labour, where they stand on electoral reform and why they have very different political styles.

This article originally appeared on 28 September on newstatesman.com and in the 30 September  6 October issue of the magazine. You can read the text version here.

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