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Honest to blog! It's the Mormons

  • Posted by Tom Quinn
  • 16 June 2008

Tom Quinn, a Mormon born and raised in the LDS stronghold of Salt Lake City, provides a brief secular history of the "other" Christian religion

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, more commonly known as the Mormon church, was formally organised in April of 1830 by Joseph Smith in a rural section of upstate New York. At that time, the congregation was small enough to meet inside a single farmhouse.

As their numbers grew, Smith and company began to move west in search of more space and eventually set up settlements in the Midwest states of Ohio and Missouri. But just like some of their modern-day counterparts, whose main problem these days seems to be a chronic dearth of a sense of humour, the Mormons of that era had a knack for attracting the wrong kind of attention. Thanks to their outside-the-box doctrine, which included a second volume of scripture — the Book of Mormon — a belief in a living prophet, and the practice of polygamy, the Mormons were ultimately driven out of both Ohio and Missouri with extreme prejudice.

At one point, the governor of Missouri even issued an “extermination order,” which mandated that any Mormons who refused to leave the state were to be shot on sight. Curiously, that order stayed on the books for nearly 150 years, making it perfectly legal to kill a Mormon in Missouri until 1976. I'd wager that a lot of people are upset they didn't take advantage of that law while they could.

Mob violence took the life of Joseph Smith in 1844, briefly leaving the church without a leader. But Brigham Young took Smith's place shortly thereafter, and decided to lead his followers to the western frontier of the United States, where they would presumably be left alone.

Young was looking for a place that no one else would want, and found the perfect patch of barren earth in the Salt Lake Valley, so named because of the enormous, putrid lake that lies just north of what is now downtown Salt Lake City. But if isolation was what Young and his Mormon followers sought, the Salt Lake Valley was an unimpeachable choice. With it's oppressively hot summers and bitter cold winters, the Salt Lake area is every bit as inviting as the Canadian tundra or the dark side of the moon.

Nevertheless, the US government continued to pester the Mormons in a manner reminiscent of a child poking at a newly-acquired pet hermit crab with a stick. Concerned the Mormons might be raising an army or perhaps building some kind of doomsday device, Uncle Sam sent troops to subdue the seditious Mormons, thus kicking off the short, decidedly unremarkable Utah War. After exchanging several volleys of hollow threats and double-dog dares, the two sides basically went their separate ways. Didn't I say it was unremarkable?

Over time, the Mormons abandoned their isolationist attitudes and sought to establish legitimacy in the eyes of the US government. The church abolished polygamy in 1890, which opened the door for Utah to become an official member of the United States. Under the care of Mormon settlers, Salt Lake has gone from being a barren, inhospitable patch of earth to a barren, inhospitable patch of earth with a thriving brine shrimp industry.

From its humble beginnings in 1830, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has grown to include more than 12 million members worldwide. Much of that growth can be attributed to the group of more than 60,000 full-time missionaries preaching in virtually every language and in every country imaginable. Mormons still haven't been fully accepted as a legitimate faith by much of mainstream Christianity, but the fact that no one is shooting at us has many feeling pretty optimistic about the future.

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23 comments from readers

elzerism
16 June 2008 at 12:35

Hey Tom - where are other large settlements of Mormons? Joseph Smith was the prophet? Why did Young take over? Is he special? Who leads it now? You?

pdone
16 June 2008 at 13:28

This is one of the few accurate articles I've read about the LDS Church and its history in the United States. As people learn the things that make us different they find how similar we are as brothers and sisters. Hate, bigotry, and mistrust prevent us from enjoying each other's company on this planet.

Got a question - ask a Mormon.

bfwebster
16 June 2008 at 14:13

"Where are other large settlements of Mormons?"

Under Brigham Young's direction, Mormons settled all along the Rocky Mountains, stretching from Alberta, Canada, down to Colonia Juarez, Mexico, as well as into California. Nowadays, over 50% of the 13+ million Mormons live outside of the US and Canada, with heavy concentrations throughout Latin America, the Philippines, Japan, and even Africa.

"Joseph Smith was the prophet? Why did Young take over?" Joseph Smith was arrested on trumped-up charges in July 1844 and taken to the jail in Carthage, Illinois, where he and his brother Hyrum were shot to death by a mob with painted faces. Brigham Young, as President of the Quorum of the Twelve, took over leadership of the LDS Church. That process of succession continues to today.

"Who leads it now?" Thomas S. Monson.

wkb4447
16 June 2008 at 17:35

Thanks for a light-hearted and accurate statement about the faith, Tom. Not only am I glad that people aren't shooting at us anymore, I'm also glad that many of the incredible stories about us ("Mormons have horns", or "Mormons throw virgins off the top of the Temple and into the Salt Lake" ...which would be quite a toss given that the lake is several miles from the SLC Temple) are pretty much a thing of the past. But, there is still a lot of work to be done with regard to educating others about our beliefs and practices. You did a good job in helping to advance that objective.

JSHarvey1961
16 June 2008 at 22:03

Pretty good overall, but a few corrections are noted below.

"Thanks to their outside-the-box doctrine, which included a second volume of scripture — the Book of Mormon — a belief in a living prophet, and the practice of polygamy, the Mormons were ultimately driven out of both Ohio and Missouri with extreme prejudice."

The LDS church actually had (and have) multiple other scriptures - the Doctrine and Covenants - modern revelations to various Church Presidents, and the Pearl of Great Price - ancient scripture that was translated for modern consumption (like the Book of Mormon) are examples. The LDS also advocated for slaves to be freed. That particularly upset their Missouri neighbors.

". . . Brigham Young took Smith's place shortly thereafter, and decided to lead his followers to the western frontier of the United States, where they would presumably be left alone."

Actually the Great Salt Lake Valley was *BEYOND* the U.S.'s western border, it was part of Mexico when the Mormons arrived.

". . . Uncle Sam sent troops to subdue the seditious Mormons, thus kicking off the short, decidedly unremarkable Utah War. After exchanging several volleys of hollow threats and double-dog dares, the two sides basically went their separate ways. Didn't I say it was unremarkable?"

Actually as a result of the Mormons cutting off supply lines, destroying trials and forcing the army to stop short of Utah the first winter many U.S. soldiers did die.

jacklfuller
17 June 2008 at 02:10

It seems remarkable to me that some historic Chrisitans keep saying they have dealt the final death blow to "Mormonism" by this thing or that. It was said at the time Jospeh was muirdered and then when Polygamy was renounced and is heard now and again even today whenever someone thinks he has "exposed Mormonism". And we just keep on growing and growing. If one believed all the hype we should have been exterminated long ago.

Deptford Dan
17 June 2008 at 07:44

I once asked a Mormon missionary why he never told

his contacts that his "Christian" religion taught that Jesus and the Devil are spirit-brothers; that he, the missionary, planned to be god one day with a planet of his own; that the founder/prophet of Mormonism, Joseph Smith, claimed that God told him all the

churches were wrong and their creeds an "abomination". The missionary's reply? "If we did, no one would ever join us!"

norm
17 June 2008 at 10:12

with all due respect, Deptford Dan, i do not believe you for a moment.

any mormon missionary would have said that mormons do, in fact, teach that all a) humans beings are children of God and, thus, brothers and sisters, b) that Jesus is the Son of God, and that, c) Lucifer was a rebellious spirit child of God in the pre-mortal existence who was cast out with his third of the host of heaven prior to mortality. in this respect, Lucifer (being a spirit child of God created with a free will) is a spiritual brother to all human beings, as well as to Jesus the Son of God.

however, lacking a physical body and not having passed through mortality, he is not in another sense on the same level of brotherhood that all human beings share with Jesus Christ--namely that all are creations of God who have (or have had) physical bodies on earth.

however, Lucifer as a fallen pre-mortal being is a uniquely mormon idea, you are very mistaken. the idea has been taught since biblical times, by Jews and Christians alike--the Old and New Testament allude to it, Tertullian and other early Christians taught it, the Catholic Church has always taught it and, for the most part, so have Protestant churchs historiaclly.

however, as to planning to be god one day or to have a planet of one's own--these are not things that mormons teach. at the very most generous, you have a presently a misleading, perversion of ideas that are accepted by many types of Christians, including mormons, in terminology that no mormon would use or teach.

as to creeds being an abomination, we still are anti-creedalism--read your history and you'll understand why; it doesn't have so much to do with the content of specific creeds as that swearing by the creeds (and other oaths) themselves are considered an abomination.

elzerism
17 June 2008 at 11:24

thanks bfwebster - you guys are mormon-riffic!!!!!!!!

Deptford Dan
17 June 2008 at 19:34

I’m sorry, Norm, that you don’t believe me. But it did happen. Yes, I do believe you are hoping, like all faithful LDS males, to become a god one day – just like Elohim. And isn’t that the whole purpose of Exaltation. If you are good enough, and done enough, you will become a god. It has already happened countless times thoughout the cosmos – they say.

Unless you are Apostle Norm, I guess you can voice an opinion, but no one is going to quote you in church next Sunday. Here are some quotes from LDS leaders – with my previous comments in mind,

“My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right--and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong, and the personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight: that those professors were all corrupt; that "they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me; they teach for doctrines the commandments of men: having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof. – Joseph Smith, History of the Church, Volume 1, pages 5&6

“The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, son of the morning. Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind” The Gospel Through the Ages by Milton R. Hunter, of the First Council of the Seventy, page15.

“In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it”. Joseph Smith, History Of The Church, vol.6, page308

“The Lord created you and me for the purpose of becoming Gods like Himself; when we have been proved in our present capacity, and been faithful with all things He puts into our possession. We are created, we are born for the express purpose of growing up from the low estate of manhood, to become Gods like unto our Father in heaven”. Brigham Young, Journal Of Discourses,vol. 3, p.93

Woodhawk
17 June 2008 at 20:13

Most Christians believe that Jesus Christ spent time praying to his father who was God the Father. I don't believe very many believe he was praying to himself. Yet I think most people believe that Jesus Christ is God and that God the Father is God. Therefore most people believe in more than one god. If you believe that you are the children of God and that he loves you more than any earthly father could, then why is it so hard to believe that He would give those that obey him and accept the sacrifice of His Son, Jesus Christ, the opportunity to be as happy as he is? Would you do any less for your children? Could it be that we don't really fully understand what it means to be a "god"?

copytech
18 June 2008 at 02:04

DAN

It seem to me all you want to do is fight and had discontention with others, All I know is the Devil is the father of contention and them that sturr up contention are his childern.Why fight the truth if 2+2=4 then why are you trying to say that 2+2=6. truth is the same yesterday,today,and the future. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint is the only TRUE and Living Church of Jesus Christ, and Joseph Smith is a Prophet of GOD and Thomas S. Monson is GOD'S Living Prophet on the Earth today.

stevepac66
18 June 2008 at 03:02

Alot of people dont know that Joseph Smith was a candidate for presidency around the time of his death.The US govt was afraid that with there being so many mormons that he would be elected,and some believe this caused his death.

MISSIONARY
18 June 2008 at 12:06

THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS is and will continue to grow. IT has been in BOTSWANA, (SOUTHERN AFRICA) since around 1990 and officially registered in 1992. there are two WARDS IN GABORONE which is the the capital city of BOTSWANA. Branches in LOBATSE, FRANCISTOWN, SEROWE & MOLEPOLOLE. This is just the beginning, as Brigham Young and the faithful saints were able to turn the Salt Lake Desert to a "beautiful flower" the faithful saints in Botswana will one day turn the KGALAGADI DESERT to a "BEAUTIFUL FLOWER" so will the faithful saints in NAMIBIANS do the namib desert. Latter-day Saints are industrious like NEPHI OF THE BOOK OF MORMON. Remember, remember that greater is he who is within us than he who is in the world. JESUS CHRIST IS OUR LORD AND OUR CAPTAIN , IN HIM WE TRUST. THIS IS A STONE CUT WITHOUT HAND THAT IS AND WILL FILL THE WHOLE WORLD, INDEED THE MUSTARD SEED THAT IS SMALL BUT WILL GROW TALLER THAN ANY OTHER TREE AND ALL WILL ENJOY ITS SHADOW. VERILY VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU THIS IS THE WORK OF THE ALMIGHTY GOD. Persecution may arise, mobs may combine, "pharisees,saducees and scribes of our day may rage against it" BUT TRUTH EVEN THE KINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH THAT IS THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS WILL GO FORTH NOBLY SWEEPING ALL CONTINENTS, ALL COUNTRIES, ALL CITIES, ALL TOWNS VILLAGES, ALL LANDS, ALL CATTLE POSTS, ALL DESERTS TILL THE VOICE OF JEHOVAH SAY AMEN IT IS DONE. JESUS IS THE CHRIST. Brother Thomas Spencer Monson is the true prophet in our day and time now. IT IS TRUE IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST AMEN.

Deptford Dan
18 June 2008 at 14:51

If the LDS religion is truly and uniquely "Christian", then the rest of us who profess to be followers of Christ are in trouble. Joseph Smith said he was informed by God that all our churches are "wrong", all our creeds are "an abomination", and all who attend our churches are "corrupt". Mind you, at that time in New York State just about every kind of church and Christian group was represented. It was time of

State-wide religious revival. The Mormon Church leaders have not revised or adjusted the "revelation". How can they? This claim to be the one and only Christian church on earth is mirrored in some of the previous posts boasting of the awesome glory and triumph of the church. It sounds like "Aren't we just wonderful".They may be in for a surprise!

Anyway, for those who have never read it, Joseph Smith's revelation is stated:

“My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right--and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong, and the personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight: that those professors were all corrupt; that "they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me; they teach for doctrines the commandments of men: having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof. – Joseph Smith, History of the Church, Volume 1, pages 5&6

PFJ
19 June 2008 at 06:36

Poor, dear Deptford Dan!

I apologise that the Church's claim to unique authority and possession of the fullness of saving doctrines offends your sense of the "traditional, historical' version of Christianity. I'm not overly concerned, however, as Jesus' own teachings were offensive to the promoters of the "traditional, historical" version of His religion in His day.

You're so busy being scandalised and outraged that you have utterly missed the fact that, while Joseph Smith's and the Church's teachings derive from direct revelation and not purely from Bible study or exegesis, they are nonetheless completely biblical. (Which, of course, one would expect if they were actually revealed doctrines.) As just one example, you seem to want the world to rise up in a furor over the doctrine of exaltation, yet you overlook the following:

Rev. 3: 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Matt. 13: 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Gal 4:4-7 ...when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

Rom 8:16-17 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

My advice to you is to do a Jesus urged and become humble as a little child, open to instruction, and set aside your pride and preconceptions and listen for the still small voice to teach you from on high. "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free....He that is of God heareth God’s words:..." (John 8:32, 47)

Deptford Dan
19 June 2008 at 09:27

PFJ wrote: "Joseph Smith's and the Church's teachings derive from direct revelation and not purely from Bible study or exegesis, they are nonetheless completely biblical". That explains a lot!

So if the God of the Bible says "Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any". Isaiah 44:8

And the Mormon prophets say they don't know how many gods there are, because each of them hopes to join their ranks, it doesn't matter. Modern revelation will correct the Bible. And even the Book of Mormon goes through the same hoop:

"For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity" - Moroni 8:18. Hold it! If current teaching is that God was once a man on another planet and progressed to become a god, how come "the most correct book on earth" (according to Joseph Smith), contradicts this? No problem - modern revelation. Mind you, it may be that what is

the treasured truth today will be superseded by a Mormon prophet next year. It would not be the first time.

gateem
20 June 2008 at 17:29

Joseph Smith a gold digger and into cristal collection proclaim himself prophet. Later on he crown himself king of the mormons and in the mids of resisting government orders to stop poligamy Joseph Smith proclaim himself lutenent of his own army. He also invented having translated from a papirous saying was the word of God it turns out to be family writings talking about their dead ones. He alter, changed and delited passages of the Bible and wrote his own self-serving book of mormons. He had 34 wives, the youngest was 14 years old and raped by him.

ANYONE who claims it is the true need to be reborn, specially if a person was born into the sect they do not have idea or reality. God does not required from anyone to wear long-jons in order to be saved. WOMEN do not need anyone to be saved, but GOD. NONE can baptize the dead by proxi. WHEN you die none will exchange hand-shakes and NO, you mormon will not have your own planet.

gateem
20 June 2008 at 22:26

EVERY MORMON should read this.

1) The file of the first of two volumes was released and archived on a web site. The date of publication is 1998 for official release in early 1999.

2) The file in question appears significant because the book is strictly confidential among the Mormon (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, aka LDS in short form) bishops and stake presidents and it reveal the procedure of handling confidential matters related to tithing payment, excommunication, baptism and doctrine teaching (indoctrination). The book is not generally available for normal members. The book was handed down or leaked by the member who held a respectable position within the church hierarchy in a regional ward or stake (place of church).

3) The attached document is meant for the audience interested to know the inner workings of the LDS Church in terms of how the organization is run in regions by ward bishops and stake presidents in the management of financial and ecclesiastical affairs. The audience may be composed of ex-Mormons, active Mormons and comparative religion students and religion scholars/agnostics/atheists focused on the tenets of the "cult" behaviorial patterns in the governance of a particular organized religion.

4) The verification can be obtained by Wikipedia'ing "General Handbook of Instructions" for the listing and year of publication. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Handbook_of_Instructions Googling the title

copytech
21 June 2008 at 01:26

Gateem,

You are like Deptford Dan, it sounds like you believe everything your preacher tells you . And by the way the US Goverment did not make the 1st. Law against plural marriage until 1862, Joseph Smith was murdered in the year 1844,you need to check your history. Please read the histroy books and not take preachers lies to heart. I would like to leave you with this quote "Jesus Christ said that the Father of contention is the DEVIL and them that contention with the truth and Christ Church is the Devil's childern. And the book you are talking about anyone can ask the bishop to look at it and he will show them. it is not secret all churches have handbooks of Instuction but I don't see anyone attacking them, whats up with that you feel in danger if an orgainization has a Book of Instruction, then you need to be scared of your own church and everyother church or organization the all have books of instruction.

may the Lord Bless you to find the Truth.

Russell

Deptford Dan
21 June 2008 at 14:51

copytech wrote to answer Gateem's post and included me in the introduction:"You are like Deptford Dan, it sounds like you believe everything your preacher tells you". I write again just to insist that all my quotes are from Mormon sources - Prophets, apostles, and leaders - not my preacher. Read again what I have written previously. Of course anyone, including copytech, can disagree with a Mormon authority, past or present, but better not do so at the LDS church next Sunday.

Pierre
26 June 2008 at 13:11

Religion is the Worlds cancer......................

asiachick
26 June 2008 at 16:01

to pierre...after reading through all of the previous comments, i can see why you think that. phew! i think it's important to be informed about a variety of things (including religions) but it's obvious from the above postings that you cannot believe everything you read. each comment refutes the last one, and each claims to be correct! of course people are going to be passionate about their religion...i think it's just human nature. but at the end of the day, it all just comes down to your own faith. are we going to "be tossed about by every wind of doctrine" (like those posted above) or will we turn to god, the one source of all truth that will never change. i firmly believe that he will tell us if we ask him. this is a great column, allowing professors of religion to give the inside scoop, but it still doesn't remove the responsibility of each individual to find truth for themselves.

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